Phased-turn in ranged combat

Posted by Karla on September 29, 2000 at 14:27:04:

Can anybody from Heuristic Park, or anybody who knows,
explain how turns work in ranged combat? Let's say you
are in a melee with some monsters and both you and
them are now turn-based. Now another monster shows up
on the horizon and chucks a spell at you -- at this
point is he in real-time or he is turn-based also? If
the monster avoids closing to melee range, does he ever
gets into turn-based mode?

And what about movement? It seems that turn-based works
only with regard to attacks, while movement stays in
real-time always. Thus if I want to keep range open and
avoid melee, I have to back away in real-time, right?
There is no way for me avoid melee on a turn-based
basis -- if I want to run I can, but it's all in
real-time always.

IMHO that's not good. If I want to apply even the most
basic tactics (like trying to avoid being surrounded)
I have to pretend I am playing Doom and run around
in real-time. If I want to avoid melee -- same thing,
I have to avoid it in real-time, shooting arrows and
and spells as I run back: Doom (or maybe Heretic) again.

I think it is a problem.

To summarize: it seems to me that:

(1) Movement is never turn-based. Essentially, movement
is free (in the sense of turns/action points/etc.) and
is always real-time.

(2) Monsters enter turn-based mode when they close to
melee range, or -- possibly -- they enter it *after*
their first attack (which means the initiative is
always decided on the real-time basis: who shot first)

If I am mistaken about this, would somebody please
correct me?

Karla

Follow Ups:

• Re: Phased-turn in ranged combat Heuristic Park 15:30:30 9/29/2000 (4)
  • Re: Phased-turn in ranged combat Karla 16:19:07 9/29/2000 (3)
    • Re: Phased-turn in ranged combat Heuristic Park 18:02:29 9/29/2000 (1)
      • So only need 1 range attacker? Gnat 22:24:02 9/29/2000 (0)
    • Re: Phased-turn in ranged combat Groucho 17:44:29 9/29/2000 (0)
• Re: Phased-turn in ranged combat Arinvald 15:03:41 9/29/2000 (0)

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Comments:
: Can anybody from Heuristic Park, or anybody who knows,
: explain how turns work in ranged combat? Let's say you
: are in a melee with some monsters and both you and
: them are now turn-based. Now another monster shows up
: on the horizon and chucks a spell at you -- at this
: point is he in real-time or he is turn-based also? If
: the monster avoids closing to melee range, does he ever
: gets into turn-based mode?

: And what about movement? It seems that turn-based works
: only with regard to attacks, while movement stays in
: real-time always. Thus if I want to keep range open and
: avoid melee, I have to back away in real-time, right?
: There is no way for me avoid melee on a turn-based
: basis -- if I want to run I can, but it's all in
: real-time always.

: IMHO that's not good. If I want to apply even the most
: basic tactics (like trying to avoid being surrounded)
: I have to pretend I am playing Doom and run around
: in real-time. If I want to avoid melee -- same thing, 
: I have to avoid it in real-time, shooting arrows and
: and spells as I run back: Doom (or maybe Heretic) again.

: I think it is a problem. 

: To summarize: it seems to me that:

: (1) Movement is never turn-based. Essentially, movement
: is free (in the sense of turns/action points/etc.) and
: is always real-time.

: (2) Monsters enter turn-based mode when they close to
: melee range, or -- possibly -- they enter it *after*
: their first attack (which means the initiative is
: always decided on the real-time basis: who shot first)

: If I am mistaken about this, would somebody please
: correct me?

: Karla



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